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I know you grew up in the
mean streets of L.A., were you born here too?
I was born in Hong Kong. My mother is Japanese. My dad is Indian and
Mexican. I grew up in the Pico Union area, but my parents met each other
in Hong Kong.
When did you first get into
graffiti art?
I was in junior high. I was a gifted student. I was taking the bus
to a magnet school, but that’s when I started messing up and I got
kicked out of the school. Then I moved and went to another local school,
a performing arts school. And then I got kicked out of that school too.
Then I went to another school and got kicked out of that one too.
Is there any school you
didn’t get kicked out of?
The reason I kept getting kicked out was not because I was stupid.
I was very independent at a young age. I wanted to do everything on my
own. I ended up getting home studies. And then when I turned 16 I took
the GED to get my high school diploma.
Being part Asian,
did you hang out mostly with Asians growing up?
Asian people…they would not talk to me at all because they thought
I was 100% Latin. They just wouldn’t accept me because I didn’t
look that Asian, especially when I was younger since I was in the sun
a lot and I get tan really easy. I don’t know why, but Asian people
just stick with Asian people. I felt more acceptance from Latinos growing
up. I guess it was because I looked more Latina than Asian. So all my
friends were Latin and black.
Was that hard on you?
No. I really felt unique. I felt I was my own person, and I think
that’s helped me get where I am. I was so into doing my own thing.
I hated people telling me what to do.
So how did you start getting
into graffiti?
My friends first showed me about tagging and picking up a marker and
hitting up the streets. I was tagging on the benches and then next thing
you know I was tagging on the bus. It was just addicting, like a drug.
Instead of me getting into drugs, I got into tagging. I loved getting
my name up. I would get on the bus and go, “Oh there goes my name
again.” Next thing you know every bus I took I was up on it. I got
in a bus crew called RTDK, it was the most known bus crew…but nowadays,
I don’t think that kids should be doing that because you’ll
pay for it eventually.
Why did you love seeing
your name up so much?
I don’t know why, I just liked seeing my name up. It made me
feel a little more important than I was. I was just nobody. I was just
an average person, but it made me feel more than average.

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You started
coming up pretty big in the world of tagging, how did you get so big?
When I would go hit up I would think, I want to do something that’s
harder than what everyone else is doing. Even though I’m scared of
heights, I got up on my first billboard and I couldn’t even stand
up straight because I was holding on to the ground…so I just set
goals for myself. I wanted to be the best, but I didn’t want people
to look at me as a girl. I wanted people to know me as Tribe. A lot of
people saw Tribe getting up everywhere, but when they found out I was
a girl, that’s when I got more props. That’s when I got a lot
more respect as a graffiti artist. Of course my friends and my crew knew
I was a girl, but when I would go to tagging events people would say,
“I thought you were some big black guy or something.”
What does it
take for a graffiti artist to gain respect?
As a graffiti illegal bomber, it’s mainly about the highest spot
you get, the dopest spot you get, the most seen spot you get—and
getting away with it.
For graffiti-ignorant
people like myself, why don’t you define bombing and other types
of graffiti.
Bombing is getting your name up on the street, on the freeway, on
street poles, on trains. Illegal stuff is called bombing because you’re
not allowed to do it. You’re like bombing the place. You’re
vandalizing.
Piecing is harder
to do. There’s more colors involved. An outline color, an inline
color, some kind of fill-in, with maybe bubbles and a background. That’s
a full piece. Some people do pieces bomb-like. Instead of doing a throw
up or tags, they’ll do colorful stuff…which I was doing also.
I was piecing on the freeway, doing colorful, nice stuff on the freeways.
But anyone can be a piecer. Anyone can go to art school and start doing
some pieces. But that doesn’t make you a real graffiti writer, because
you never put in the work as a bomber.
A throw up can
be just an outline of letters.
And then there’s
a tagger who’s never done a throw up, who just does a tag, something
kind of toyish. A tag is just writing your name with one-line letters.
What was it
that kept you interested in graffiti and pushed you to keep doing it?
I wasn’t in it to get big. I actually liked going out and the
rush of doing it, getting away with it. Getting chased was the best part.
It’s like playing a video game but really being in the video game.
It’s like cops and robbers. It’s just a rush. Your heart’s
beating fast, the smell of the paint, being in the street…you feel
like the whole world is yours. People get stuck in their little world,
in their house, their job, or whatever, but when you do graffiti the world
is huge. You’re always accepted by the street. That’s why I
like graffiti so much. But like I said, you can’t get away with it
forever. Everyone has to pay a price eventually.
A long time
ago I saw a photo of a tiny girl on the front of a bus, tagging its windshield.
It turns out that was you. How did that go down?
My homie and I waited for the bus. He got on the bus, put one foot
on the floor, one foot on the bus like he was looking for his wallet.
I had to run up to the bus, jump on the bus, hold on to the windshield
wiper. I had my foot on the bumper and just caught a tag. This bus driver
did not care. He took off even with my friend’s foot on the bus.
Then he took off and tried to pump the brakes really hard so I would fall
off. But I was so into getting the tag I thought, I’m holding on
until I’m done with the tag. I finished the tag, jumped off the bus
and just started running. The bus driver stopped the bus and tried to
chase me.
I met up with
my friends and we took off. We rolled by there later. The bus was stopped.
Police were surrounding the bus and they were taking pictures of it. They
were emptying out the bus and another bus was coming for the passengers.
Tell us how
Tribe got “taken down.”
I had gotten caught for that bus thing. Nowadays the city has more
of an anti-graffiti squad. They have like a whole crew (almost like our
tagging crews) of guys that just bust taggers. They already had an investigation
open on me before the bus thing, but they didn’t know who I was.
With that picture I really burned myself. One rule is you’re not
supposed to show yourself. They found out I was a girl. They did a huge
investigation. They came and raided my house. They found like 300 spray
cans. I was so young…I had a tag in my phone book with the word Tribe
and my own phone number next to it. [laughs]
So I burned myself.
It was a misdemeanor, so they gave me probation, no big deal. Slap in
the hand, whatever. Then I just kept going. That didn’t stop me at
all. So I kept bombing and bombing and bombing. Eventually I got caught
in the act. They let me go that night because those cops didn’t know
who I was. But then the next day an anti-graffiti squad found out who
I was and they started a bigger investigation. Two weeks later they came
and raided my pad again. It was a huge raid with at least 20 police cars.
They took me in and they gave me a $100,000 bail.
They needed
that many cops to bust you?
Yeah…I don’t know why. They went overboard. Even the first
time they raided me, they blocked off the street. I got a six-month sentence,
but I didn’t have to serve time in jail. For some reason God watches
out for me a lot, and I got house arrest. I had a little beeper on my
leg.
 
A lot of people
don’t understand why people who break the law should be considered
artists? What would you say to them?
There’s a difference…I like doing stuff that’s colorful,
nice. I’d hit up on walls that were tagged on by gangsters…I’d
hit up places that were already messed up. I’m adding some pink or
some pretty blues with some clouds and bubbles and hearts. So I thought
it looked better than the gangster tags or the nasty writing that were
there. I understand that,
of course, it’s other people’s property. I ended up paying a
$10,000 restitution. So I paid my dues back to the community.
So you see a distinction between someone who’s leaving some ugly
chicken scratch and a real graffiti artist?
Yeah, some stuff that’s out there can be considered art. But
there is some tagging that just looks really bad. That’s what you
call toys, and that makes all graffiti artists look really bad. I’m
from crews of people that are known to do nice stuff—nice stuff on
dirty, ugly walls or trains—that I think looks better and artistic.
Graffiti is all
over TV. Companies are using graffiti in huge advertisements. It’s
the urban thing to do. It’s the cool thing to do. The artsy thing
to do. But people don’t seem to complain when it’s on TV.
The time when
you were under house arrest is when you really started to develop your
DJ skills, right?
That’s when I really started practicing my DJing. I didn’t
know what to do with my life and I liked DJing a lot. I already had my
turntables. I had some records already. My brother was a promoter and
he gave me a lot of records. When I got busted I blew the dust off my
records and really concentrated on my DJing. I started getting certain
skills together: DJing and scratching and mixing in songs. You kind of
get into a whole zone, like you do with graffiti. It’s a different
kind of rush, but it’s a good feeling and something I love to do.
How did you
go from a bedroom DJ into the up-and-coming DJ Lady Tribe?
It was really a hobby, but I’m the kind of person that tries
to picture how I want things to be. When I was DJing at home I pictured
my name on all these flyers and this girl DJ fucking it up at the club…everybody
screaming, “Yeah!” Since I had that picture in my head, the
picture started coming true. I think if you just visualize what’s
going to happen, it’ll happen in the future. It kind of subconsciously
makes your body and actions follow what your mind envisions.
What are your
ultimate goals as a DJ?
I want to be on MTV and make money, yeah…but what I really want
is to get my skills SO good. I picture going into DJ battles and just
tearing it up. Because everyone’s going to look at me and go, “Look
at this chick?! Blonde hair, big boobs, dressed like a little hoochie?
Hell no! She can’t DJ.” But then I’m just going to tear
it up and everyone’s going to be like, “Oh my God.” I’m
going to set the pace for all the women out there who get looked down
on and are told, “Oh you’re just good for making babies.”
We can do whatever we set our minds to.
As you suggested,
a lot of people might look at you and say you’re getting a lot of
gigs because you’re a hot chick.
That’s true. I’m not going to deny it. But I’m not
just trying to live off of that. Of course I get jobs because of my looks.
But that’s not all I’m doing. I really love DJing. I’m
there for the art of DJing. People might say those things, but I say,
“Well okay, that got me the job, but I kept the job because I’m
a good DJ.” I wouldn’t still be DJing at my residencies if I
sucked so bad. The way I look is a good marketing tool, but it’s
not me. I really want to be seen as a good DJ, not just a cute girl.
What words
of advice would you have for our readers?
I would say, be confident and don’t let anybody or anything hold
you back because of your race and your gender. If you really are sure
of yourself and what you want to do, you can do it. Keep going strong
because people tend to put down Latinos…to see Latinos really making
it is great, and you just have to know you can do it too. Anyone can do
it.
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